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Thursday, September 13, 2007

Children's Chore Carnival

Chilihead is hosting a carnival today on chores and allowance for kids so of course I have to participate because this is a subject of great interest to me. In fact it's been our family "project" for the last year and a half. I'm not sure if it will ever stop being our family project because there is so much to learn on the subject but I will share what has worked for us so far.

This is a series of articles I wrote about teaching kids to work. The bonus is that it has taught me to work more efficiently as well. My nine year old wrote the last article for me.

Part I, Whose Job is It?
Part II, Getting Rid of the Clutter
Part III, Let Them Help
Part IV, It Takes Time
Part V, Work Together
Part VI, Learn to Practice
Part VII, Make it Easy
Part VIII, by the Gallagher Boy

He also wrote an article describing his allowance and how he saves and spends money.

How a Nine Year Old Would Spend $50

Here is my article describing Mom First Credit Union from my perspective. I cannot tell you enough how great this system is. IT'S EASY AND IT WORKS!

Debt Proof Your Kids

We have changed a few things since that article was written. The kids don't write checks to me anymore. They just keep track of their spending and earning in a checkbook register that they keep in a small Organizing Bag along with a calculator and pencil. But the deal is the same. If they don't have their register, they don't spend any money.

I have also raised their allowance considerably and they have many more responsibilities than before. For example, now they have to buy their own socks and shoes because I think paying for them themselves helps them take better care of them. Eventually I will have them buying all their own clothes as well. Victor has to pay for all his own Scouting costs. I pay for the kid's art lessons but they have to buy their own supplies. Basically, anything they want to do or buy that's not family related, they have to pay for themselves.

They are paid their allowance once a month and according to Janine Bolon, the kids can use 40% on their expenses, put 20% into long term savings, 20% into short term savings, 10% goes to tithing and 10% they give away to anyone as philanthropy. Of course they never spend 40% so most of it just stays in their "checking" accounts. They have so much money in their savings accounts that Stranger is going to take them to the bank this week to buy some CD's with it so they can start earning a higher interest rate.

You really must check out Janine's books, Money...It's Not Just For Rich People, and Cash Cars and College that was written for kids. She is fabulous! In fact I like them so much that I contacted her and she is going to send me some to give away! As soon as I get them we will have a fun give-away here on my blog so make sure you check back.

My kid's allowance is not tied to their chores in any way. They do chores because they're part of our family and they do them every day without complaining. I mentioned this in one of my articles but I think most parents want to know how I get my kids to do chores without complaining. The biggest key to having cooporative kids is consistency and habit. If they are doing chores every day then they know what to expect and there is nothing to complain about. Kids whine and complain when it is effective. If you have kids that act like this then they are getting what they want by this behavior. My kid's lives have never been improved by whining or complaining so they almost never do it. Of course they have to try it occationally just to make sure it still doesn't work but then they go back to being their sweet selves.

If you would like help building positive new habits for yourself or your kids then please join us every week for Smart Habit Saturday. It's been an amazing experience for all of us who have participated in it this year.

Don't forget that I'm not an expert but if you have any questions for me I will answer them in the comments. Thanks for visiting!

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At September 13, 2007, Blogger cookin4God said...

WOW! I am thoroughly impressed with this post! There is so much info. included, I am bookmarking it, to share with my husband. We have been looking for just this sort of help in our household! Love it!

 
At September 13, 2007, Blogger Christy said...

The articles by your son are so great! He has some good philosophies on money (no doubt from you and your husband) and it sounds like he is really strong from carrying all that salt around.

 
At September 13, 2007, Blogger Rebecca said...

I will need to read through all of the articles when I have more time. I grew up in a house with chores and no allowance, little at times but I wasn't paid for the chores I did. We did chores as being a part of the family & household. I want to use the same ideals in teaching my kids responsibility. I am really getting interested in these books by Janine Bolon with as much as you've been talking about how they've worked for you. Looking forward to the drawing!

 
At September 13, 2007, Blogger An Ordinary Mom said...

You make it sound so easy :) !!

I am interested in Janine's books ... maybe I will see if our local library carries them ... or maybe I will win a copy right here :) !!

 
At September 13, 2007, Blogger Bonni said...

Lots of reading here...and some great ideas. Thanks for sharing your allowance system. I have heard of a similar system using a ledger - also very successful. Your description makes it very easy to implement. It's nice to hear how it works with older kids. This is definitely a system that can grow with your kids.

Thanks again...another great post.

 
At September 13, 2007, Blogger Angela said...

Make sure to compare CD rates with online savings account rates like ING Direct and FNBO Direct. We've been using both and they are great. FatWallet finance forum has a great thread keeping track of where the best rates are at any given time. Even for their short term savings there is no reason to earn less than 3% when you can get 4% like the electric orange. I"ll always keep my credit union membership that I grew up with b/c they have good loan rates (not that we use them) but my son's savings account has been earning .7% (its only $65 right now). I'm earning 4 and 4.5 and 6% on my three primary checking/savings/lt savings accounts so this week we're switching him over too. Just something to think about.

 
At September 14, 2007, Blogger The Lazy Organizer said...

We will definitely check into them Angela. Thanks!

 
At September 14, 2007, Blogger The Lazy Organizer said...

Lucy asked me a couple questions so I will answer them here.

I think five is probably a good age to start giving an allowance. I think they can understand at that age that money has value and they can use it to buy things. Mary Hunt, in her book, doesn't start her kids on the allowance system until they are in Jr. High I think but they are given free reign with it from the beginning. I wanted my kids to start earlier but with my guidance. I have told Victor that when he's twelve I will let him have complete control over his money and spend it however he wants. If he spends it all and has nothing left to buy shoes then I guess he will go barefoot! I know he won't though and in fact I'm thinking of letting him budget his own money when he's ten which is in a couple months. He's very responsible and loves to save so I don't worry about him.

I think once Lovely learns to read and write and/or she's five I will give her an allowance and a check book just like the older kids. I will have to do all the adding in it for her but at least she will be able to see how it's done and know that we are tracking her expenses. The point of this is not just to teach them for when they're older but to teach them NOW that money isn't free and they can't buy everything they want.

I tell my kids that they get an allowance so they can learn the value of money and to save and spend it responsibly. We are giving them money to pay for things we would normally pay for anyway. But if it's their money they feel more responsible and take better care of it. It has almost entirely cut out their asking for things every time we go somewhere. Now they know that if they buy something it will be with their own money. Of course they still ask but not 100 times in every store!

The funny thing about the kids is that they don't just want to use their money on themselves. They are very generous with it. They buy each other treats and Victor will even buy me presents with his money. He bought me a $5 salad spinner once! We had walked into IKEA and I had jokingly said I wanted everything there and he said, "Well, I will buy you one thing but that's all." I had to control myself from laughing. I almost said no but he really wanted to do that for me and of course I want him to learn to be generous so I let him.

 
At September 14, 2007, Blogger Lisa said...

We have had an allowance system and chore system in place that has worked for us, but this has me thinking....My kids can do better with helping with dinner, and I am certain they could do some laundry-other than put it away, which is what they do now. I was just curious how you decide how much money to give them? We put 20% away and 10% to tithing, too, but then right away they spend that 70% on books or a video game or a toy. Because I am a terrible budget keeper, I would love to start with them now. Did you just come up with an amount, or did Mary Hunt's book give you some guidelines? Thanks for sharing this. I'm sure we can all do better.

 
At September 14, 2007, Blogger The Lazy Organizer said...

Lisa,

I'm sure I mentioned my motto in one of my articles, "If Momma's working, everyone's working!" I used to make dinner by myself and then watch everyone run off to play while I did all the cleaning up. One day I decided, NO MORE! Now both my kids help with dinner (or even make it by themselves) and then when we're done eating my daughter and I put the food away and clear the table while my son rinses the dishes. It works great for us!

Mary gave her son $50 a month which would be way too much for my kids! I started with ten but now my kids get $20 a month with more responsiblities. You really should read Mary's book but you have to decide on an amount that works for your family.

 
At September 14, 2007, Anonymous Karen@FamilyBriefs said...

My oldest is 7 and we struggle with how much to pay him. His younger brother who is 5 also receives and allowance (the 3-year-old gets one when we remember & have cash - the boys get "imaginary" money in their checking account). But they don't have to buy any of their own stuff, other than "fun stuff".

I'm so excited you're going to get some of Janine Bolan's books - they aren't in our library and I haven't found them locally yet - so pick me ! pick me! pick me! You're so smart to contact her :)

 
At September 16, 2007, Blogger Mrs. Brownstone said...

ALL of your articles listed are so great! I really like the idea of adding in the philanthropy category. We do 10% tithe, 20% long term savings, 10% short term savings, and 10% tax. I like the idea of supporting a charity IN ADDITION to tithing!

 
At September 24, 2007, Blogger The Lazy Organizer said...

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At April 05, 2008, Anonymous Jessica said...

I have thought of various ways to give our kids an allowance...thanks for sharing this post!

By the way, I think this is my first visit to your blog, please feel free to stop by and say hello at my blog as well!

 

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